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July, 2007 Newsletter

Maya Conferences

Jerry Ainsworth

 

As indicated last month, I had intended to be in Mexico all of the month of June.  However, a modest cardiac event, and a bad case of food poisoning forced me to postpone those plans.  For over thirty years I have traveled throughout Mesoamerica and eaten every thing placed in front of me, never having an adverse reaction.  It took a sandwich at a Subway restaurant in my hometown to do me in with a case of food poisoning.  Go figure.

 

I am therefore going to return to some of the things I learned during my attendance at the last two Maya conferences – that are related to the Book of Mormon.  When understood, this information will help us understand why the presence of Lehi and his fellow travelers left such a small foot print, after their landing on this continent.

 

Let me first set the geographical stage for this information.  The vast majority of people who research and write on this topic, believe the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica.  And with rare exception these people, myself included, have Lehi landing on the pacific side of Guatemala, close to the border that separates this country from Mexico.  In BofM terms, this would be the land of first inheritance, or in our parlance, the foothills between the mountains and the ocean on the Pacific coast of Guatemala and Mexico.

 

Since we know Lehi landed around 600BC, the big question is, “Were there other people living in this area, during and/or before 600BC.”  And the answer to this question, as given in the 2007 Maya conferences at the Universities of Texas and Pennsylvania is, “Yes, there were people already living in this area, and they had been living there for hundreds of years.”

 

At the University of Texas conference a number of cities were reported to have existed in this geographical area as far back as 1200BC, with others dating back to 800BC.  To appreciate how many people may have lived in this area at 600BC, remember that the U.S.A. has only been in existence for around 350 years, and look at the population of this country.  It is therefore easy to appreciate that when Lehi landed, there was at least one culture, possibly more in the same general area, with large populations.

 

We know that not only was there a large number of people living in that area, and had been for hundreds of years, but there were also cultural events, customs, celebrations, traditions and beliefs that around 20 strangers were confronted with, upon their landing.  If you can imagine 20 strangers coming to the city where you live, and then ask what kind of evidence they would leave of their arrival – you can appreciate what happened at the landing of Lehi.

 

Rather than the culture Lehi brought with him being manifest, his culture was simply absorbed by the existing culture(s).  The result for this kind of influence on Lehi’s people, would be similar to Mormons celebrating Christmas in December, although we know that was not the month Jesus was born.  It was just the existing custom the LDS church was exposed to after the restoration of the gospel.  Rather than trying to change the celebration of the birth date of Jesus Christ to April, we simply adopted the existing custom.  We can assume Lehi and his people made similar adaptations.

 

Now, who were these people who Lehi ran into upon his landing?  He landed South of the Narrow Neck, and Ether 10:21 states that the descendants of Jared and his brother, did not take their culture South of the Narrow Neck.  There were a few who did go into the land Southward, during their battle with the serpents, (see Ether 9:32), but very few.

 

The secret to who the other people may have been lies in Ether 6:1, where we are told that there were four categories of people who came over from the great tower.  There was Jared with his family and the friends of Jared and their families, which totals at least three separate families.

 

Then there was the Brother of Jared and his family and the friends of the Brother of Jared and their families, which once again are minimally three families – for a total of at least six families that made the trip.  The history of Mexico implies there were seven families.

 

Ether 2:1 states that the Book of Ether is about Jared and the Brother of Jared and their descendants.  It does not say it is a record of the other families that came with them.  So, although Jared and his brother decided not to expand their culture South of the Narrow Neck, that prohibition did not necessarily include their friend’s families.

 

I therefore conclude that the people Lehi encountered upon his landing were descendents of the friends of Jared and his brother, or possibly other people who the Lord may have led here.  From what the Book of Ether says, the descendents of Jared and his brother never went to Central America, and certainly not to South America.  Yet, Genesis 11:8 states the following about the people at the tower of Babel, “So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build another city.”

 

There is good evidence that there were people in South America at the same time the Jaredites were in North America.  So, either the Lord scattered a separate group of people to that part of this continent, or the friends of Jared and his brother migrated that far.

 

I therefore assume these were the peoples that Lehi encountered upon his landing.  Archaeologically we know that every succeeding group who inhabited Mesoamerica, adopted the culture of the Jaredites, their architecture, their calendrics, some of their language, and some of their theology.  Ether 1:43 states that the civilization descending for the Jaredites would be “…a great nation.  And there shall be none greater than the nation which I will raise up unto me of they seed, upon all the face of the earth.”

 

That is whom Lehi and his people encountered upon their landing, and is why they emulated the existing culture, rather than the other way around. 

 

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August, 2007 Newsletter

Book of Mormon Geography

Jerry Ainsworth

 

As an up-date on our efforts to return to Cumorah, Esteban and I are simply waiting for cooler weather.  During this time of year, the area we must visit is extremely hot and humid.  Having already experienced a minor cardiac event last month, my physician explained that one of the very last things I needed to do, is go bouncing around farmer’s fields, in the boonies of Mexico, in 95-105 degrees.

 

In lieu of that anticipated revisit, let me share something that has become apparent to me, apropos Book of Mormon geography.  I have on my desk a variety of relatively recent Book of Mormons maps, all with varying locations for major Book of Mormon locations, even though all of these maps place the Nephite/Lamanite location in the same general area, (Mesoamerica).

 

There are two Book of Mormon geographical markers that all of these maps either ignore, or misinterpret, and I wish to address these two markers, both being scriptural.  The two scriptures I am referring to are as follows:

 

Alma 22:32

And now, it was only the distance of a day and a half’s journey for a Nephite, on the line Bountiful and the land Desolation, from the east to the west sea; and thus the land of Nephi and the land of Zarahemla were nearly surrounded by water, there being a small neck of land between the land northward and the land southward.

 

Ether 10:20

And they built a great city by the narrow neck of land, by the place where the sea divides the land.

 

I’ll address Alma 22:32 first.  The way I read this scripture is that if it were not for the narrow neck of land, the lands of Zarahemla and Nephi would have been completely surrounded by water.  Unless I am missing something, that means that there must be water on the east side of these lands, the south side of these lands, and the west side of these lands.  And then to the north, there was a narrow neck of land, or the lands of Zarahemla and Nephi would have been completely surrounded by water.

 

I suspect all mapmakers accept that the Atlantic Ocean (East sea) and the Pacific Ocean, (West sea), are part of the waters that Alma is referring to.  But that leaves a body of water that must be south of the land of Nephi, (Lamanite territory), otherwise these lands would not be completely surrounded by water, (except at the narrow neck).  In order to currently find a body of water south of these lands, one must go to the tip end of South American, Terra del Fuego.  Indeed, in earlier days of the church, it was this scripture that led people to believe that the Book of Mormon took place throughout all of South, Central and North America.

 

On page 69 of my book, The Lives and Travels of Mormon and Moroni, I propose how this surround water would have looked during the time Alma wrote this description.  I believe that the two oceans actually converged, indeed surrounded the southern part of the land of Nephi.  Today we would say that this water (the two oceans) join one to the other, separating the countries of Nicaragua and Costa Rica.

 

My proposal may not be correct, but at least I offer an explanation of Alma 22:32.  The authors of the maps I have been studying, do not even address this scripture.  They propose a Book of Mormon map, with no accommodation for this description of Alma.  I think it is a large error in each of these maps.  It is such an obvious omission, that in my opinion, it calls into question the other aspects of the maps.

 

The second scripture, Ether 10:20, indicates that very close to the narrow neck of land, there was an area where the “sea divides the land.”  Two of the maps that I have, once again simply ignore this scripture, offering no place where the sea divides the land – close to the narrow neck.  Other maps do offer an explanation.  They indicate that the Gulf of Mexico, with the Yucatan on the east side, and mainland of Mexico being on the west, is where the sea divides the land.

 

Mexico is essentially shaped like a fishhook, with the Gulf of Mexico sitting in the bowl of the hook.  Yet I doubt that anyone would say that a fish-hook was divided.  Once I read this proposed explanation of this scripture, (the Gulf of Mexico), I took out Webster’s Dictionary, which I often do when reading the Book of Mormon.  These are the definitions I found for the word, divide:

 

To separate into parts

To sector into units

To disunite

To cut off

To separate from

To become separated into parts

To separate into pieces

 

The way I read Webster, is if you divide something, you end up with at least two separate pieces.  Indeed, isn’t that what the term division means?  It does not mean to indent, to gap, or to bend.  The dictionary makes it clear that the term means to completely divide into two (or more) separate pieces.

 

Once again, none of the authors of these maps have a place, close to the narrow neck of land that is divided from the mainland.  I once again propose an explanation of this scripture, as shown on page 66 of The Lives and Travels of Mormon and Moroni.  Not only may I be incorrect with this proposal, but at least I offer an explanation for this scripture, one where the sea actually separates two sections of land.  And I should quickly add, since publishing book, it has become apparent to me, that I did not make the separated land, (the island), large enough.  When I do the second edition of my book, I will make a modest change in the size of the island, making it larger, so as to accommodate some of the ancient ruin sites, that are currently excluded with the proposal as it exists.  Having said that, I still do believe that the sea did divide the land in this area of Mexico, just as Ether 10:20 indicates.

 

One thing I am certain of is, if you take a small thin piece of metal and bend it into the shape of a fishhook, (as in the case of the shape of Mexico), no one would say you have divided the piece of metal.  Nor do I think a legitimate case can be made for the Gulf of Mexico being what Ether is being describing in Ether 10:20, where the sea divides the land.

 

In my opinion, these two scriptures are either ignored, or misinterpreted in the recent Book of Mormon maps that I have in my possession.

 

 

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September, 2007 Newsletter

Changes in the BofM lands during the crucifixion

Jerry Ainsworth

 

Since I began writing this monthly article for the website, a number of people have asked me to address the physical disruptions that took place in Book of Mormon lands at the crucifixion of the Savior.  Having just returned from Guatemala and viewing some of those changes, I thought I would write a few words about these three cataclysmic days.

 

I realize that views and interpretations of these events vary greatly, so these are simply my views, of both the lands, which I have visited, as well as the scriptures that address the events of these three days.  I recognize that personal interpretations and views are just that.  I will also take the liberty to use the definitions of some of the names of cities, which I have theorized, as this may help locate the cities.  Having said that, I know of no professional linguist that agrees with my definitions.  So, with that disclaimer, here are some of my impressions and views.

 

First of all, there are a few basics that should be addressed.  There are two separate accounts of the catastrophic events that occurred during this time period accompanying the crucifixion of the Savior.  One account of these events was given by Nephi the historian, in 3 Nephi 8, while the other was given by the Lord himself, in 3 Nephi 9.

 

I have always assumed the use of the terms, “land, whole earth, face of the land, all the land,” etc, were more specific than general.  In other words, these scriptures were meant to address the whole face of the Nephite lands, (those they were aware of), the same being true for the other terms, “all of the land, etc.”  I do not mean to imply dramatic changes were not taking places in other parts of the planet, only that the Nephite record was specific about what was being described and/or referred to, (i.e. the land Southward and the land Northward).

 

These events began on April 4, (the first month of the Nephite year - see 3 Nephi 8:5 and 2:8) and lasted for three hours, (see 3 Nephi 8:19).  Nephi mentions that there was “great and terrible destruction” that took place in both the land southward, as well as the land northward.  However, in the land northward, “there was a more great and terrible destruction, for behold the whole face of the land was changed…”  I therefore assume that the whole face of the land southward was not changed, at least not as dramatically as was the case in the land northward. It should be remembered that the Nephite nation (as well as the Lamanites) lived in the land southward, and did not move to the land northward until 350AD, 35 years before the demise of their nation, at the battle of Cumorah in 385AD. (see Mormon 2:28)

 

After this general description of the changes that had taken place, Nephi, as well as the Savior addressed the specific changes that took place in the land southward.  This was a pattern followed by most Book of Mormon historians, including Mormon.  They generalized about lands outside of Zarahemla, but were very specific about what transpired in the lands occupied by the Nephites and Lamanites, (Zarahemla, Bountiful and the land of Nephi).

 

One can only guess what destruction and changes occurred in the land northward, or other places on the planet.  But as for the destruction and changes that took place in the land southward, we do not have to guess, as Nephi and the Savior are very specific about what those were, at least the ones they consider worthy of mention.  Here are the specific destructions and changes that occurred in the Nephite/Lamanite lands, as detailed by Nephi and the Savior:

 

Nephi states the city of Moroni was sunk into the depths of the sea and all the inhabitants were drowned.  The Savior refers to this city as “the great city of Moroni. (see

3 Nephi 8:8 and 9:4). This is the only city described as sinking into the sea.  Since there were other cities contiguous to the city of Moroni, one might assume that they sank also, but no other cities are mentioned as sinking into the sea.  My candidate for the location of this city is the under water Maya site off the coast of the northern portion of Belize, a place named Cerros.  The tops of pyramids can be seen sticking out of the ocean at this location, (the city being underwater).  Photos of this can be seen on page 71 of my book, The Lives and Travels of Mormon and Moroni.  I have dived to the floor of this ancient city and gathered many potshards from that location.  Also, if you walk the beach around this location on any given morning potshards can be seen there, which are washed up on shore during the night before.

 

3 Nephi 8:14 does say that “many great and notable cities were sunk,…” and some people assume this means they were sunk into the sea.  I do not make that assumption.  I assume that Nephi is referring to the cities mentioned by the Savior in 3 Nephi 9:6&8, which are described as being sunk “in the depths of the earth,” and “made hills and valleys in the stead thereof.”  The Savior mentions five such cities.  My assumption about the sinking of these cities, is that there was a parting of the earth (and earthquake) and some cities actually sank into very deep fissures.  I assume this because at the end of the three days of darkness, 3 Nephi 10:10 states that “…the earth did cleave together again…”  I interpret this to mean that those deep fissures then closed up, (cleaved together), entombing the inhabitants of the sunken cities.

 

There is not much to go on, as to the location of these five cities, but the names of two of the cities may give a clue.  I have determined that the term “Gadi” in the BofM means “the middle.”  We know that the “Gadi-anton” robbers lived in the middle of the mountains, (between the tops and the bottoms.)  I believe that anton means mountain.  These were the robbers who lived at the middle level of the mountains.

 

If I am correct about this term, then the names of two of these five cities may give a clue as to their location.  To wit: Gadiandi and Gadiomnah.  These names may place these cities in the middle, or center of the land.  Nah in Maya means the chief person, Lord, or head.  As an example, Alma 30:21-23 indicates that Giddonah was the High Priest and Chief Judge.  The term “nah” appended to his name indicates that – in Maya.  So these two cities may have been in the center of the land and the city of Gidiomnah may have been the chief city of a province.

 

The second city that was named as being destroyed was the city of Moronihah.  Once again Nephi refers to it simply as “the city…,” while the Savior refers to it as “the great city of Moronihah.”

 

Nephi states that “in the place of this city there became a great mountain,” while the Savior states that “I have covered this great city with earth, and the inhabitants thereof…”

I believe the Lord caused a large mountain to simply move over,  on top of, and to cover the city of Moronihah.  Nephi states it was a “great mountain,” so I assume it was large.  My candidate for this mountain is the Maya mountain range in southern Belize.  I believe the city of Moronihah is underneath that mountain range.  I guess the only way to prove that would be to dig up the mountain – a daunting task.

 

Nephi then gives some descriptions of damages to the general infrastructure of the Nephite lands.  In 3 Nephi 8:13 he states that the highways were “broken up and level roads spoiled and many smooth places became rough.”  I have traveled this area extensively and I know where the ancient Maya roads were, (at least after the crucifixion), and these changes mentioned by Nephi would not appear to be all that catastrophic.  The highways of the Maya had a very deep and substantial foundation, made of stone.  Once the highways were broken up, it would require little effort to take the existing disrupted stone and rebuild the highways.

 

In 3 Nephi 8:14-15 Nephi states that the shaking of the earth was so violent, that “the buildings thereof had fallen to the earth…” and “…some cities remained; but the damage thereof was exceeding great…”  If one can picture the stone pyramids and other stone buildings found in ancient Maya cities, and envision the type of quaking required to make these buildings fall apart, then you can envision the violent nature of the storms and earth quakes taking place during this time.  An example of such disruption can be seen at Yaxcaba, at the top of the Yucatan, (below Chichen Itza), where the pyramids have been pretty much destroyed, with the stones laying scattered on the ground.

 

In verse 18 Nephi now indicates “…rocks were rent in twain; they were broken up, upon the face of the whole earth, insomuch that they were found in broken fragments and in seems and in cracks…”  As initially stated, I just returned from Guatemala, where I spent some time on the shores of Lake Atitlan – in many of the Maya villages around that lake.  The description sited above appears to describe exactly the condition of the rocks in/on the mountains surrounding this lake, as they are broken into fragments, cracked, etc.  These rocks initially were a result of large lava flows from the volcanoes around the lake, but are now broken into pieces and fragments.  I am certain there are other similar places in the lands of the Nephites/Lamanites, and that Atitlan, (the waters of Mormon), is just one such place.

 

In verse 17, Nephi states that “…the face of the whole earth became deformed, because of the tempests, and the thunderings and lightenings and the quaking of the earth.”  And in verse 16 he implies this was due to a hurricane, or some similar violent storm.  I have been in two violent hurricanes in this area, and there is no doubt that they deformed the face of the land.  I have seen every tree in Cancun up-rooted by hurricane Gilberto, and all the sand of the resort beaches ripped into the ocean by Katrina, leaving the beaches with ragged stones where the sand once was.  All very deforming, but also very easy to recover from.  Indeed Cancun has done so a number of times.

 

In verse 8, Nephi states that “…the city of Zarahemla did take fire.”  Helaman 13:13 makes it clear that this fire came “down out of heaven.”  I assume this means that lightening struck the city of Zarahamla and since this city is in a location known for gas and oil reserves in Mexico, I assume the lightening struck escaping gas/oil, (remember there were great and deep fissures), and this city did “take” fire.

 

In 3 Nephi 9:3 the Savior states that “the great city of Zarahemla have I burned with fire and the inhabitants thereof.”  You may notice a clear distinction between how Nephi represents these events and how the Lord does.  Nephi is acting as an historian, simply recording events accurately.  The Savior on the other hand is describing a principle of the gospel, blood atonement.  Nephi states that cities were destroyed, while the Savior states that the inhabitants were drowned, burned and/or buried.  He also explains why, “…to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets should not come any more unto me against them..” (see 3 Nephi 9:7-11)  Put very simply, if sins are not repented off and therefore paid for by the Savior, then other blood must be shed to pay for those sins.  Some of that took place during these dramatic and destructive events being described in 3 Nephi 9.

 

Nephi, in verse 8:14 states that many cities were burned, while the Savior, in 9:8, lists some of those cities, to wit: Jacobugath, Laman, Josh, Gad, Kishkumen and Zarahemla, once again explaining the necessity of the shedding of the blood of these inhabitants.  There is no way to know if these were the only six cities that were burned, but we know there were at least six.  It may be of interest that at this year’s Maya conference at the University of Pennsylvania, Professor Canuto, of Yale University reported that he has discovered a Maya city (Achates) that was burned by fire, “around 50AD.”  The actual date of the ones mentioned in the Book of Mormon was 34AD.  The date of “around 50AD” is close enough for me.

 

In 3 Nephi 9:8 the Savior mentions some cities that Nephi does not, namely, the cities of Onihah, Mocum and Jerusalem, which were all covered with water, or as the Savior puts it, “…and waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof.”  The key words being “waters come up.”  I think of the city of New Orleans that was below sea level and how hurricane Katrina caused the waters to “come up,” in the stead thereof.

 

I do not know where these three cities were located, but the name Onihah implies that this city was by the water.  (Hah in Maya means connected to water.)  I place these three cities close to the location where the borders of Belize, Guatemala and Honduras converge.  At this location, there is a very large lake, Lago de Izabal, a few smaller lakes and the Bahia de Amatique.  I know of no evidence that there are cities underneath these waters, but if I were twenty years younger, I would be diving there to find out.  For now, this is simply my best guess as to the location of these cities that were covered with water.  Wherever the cities were located, I assume there are now large lakes or lagoons in that location.  Plus, I would assume, that like New Orleans, the cities were below or close to sea level, where fresh water could cover them easily.  Having seen how raging rivers can inundate locations in this part of Central America, it is easy to envision changes in the land that then allowed raging rivers, cascading down the steep mountains, to completely inundate and cover these cities.

 

Although the changes that I have described are pronounced and certainly altered the landscape, I do not see them as changing the shape or general lay out of the lands of the Nephites and Lamanites that significantly.  Some cities had buildings that were toppled, roads were broken up and some cities sank due to earthquakes.  Yet the major mountain ranges appear to have remained the same, the coastal areas remained the same, the narrow neck and pass remained the same, and the basic demarcation between the land of the Nephites and the land of the Lamanites basically remained the same.  It also appears that Bountiful, Desolation and other Pre-Crucifixion boundaries remained unchanged.

 

I do find it interesting that the Lord destroyed cities and people by wind, earth, water and fire, (the four elements), and buried people under earth, seawater and fresh water.  In other words, with all elements available to him, he buried people in it. 

 

That is my best judgment and assessment of the changes that took place at the crucifixion, as described by Nephi and the Savior.

 

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry
To: Marcel
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Lake Atitlan and City of Jerusalem

Marcel:
 
I chose not to mention the following in my response, as it is much too speculative, but, if you allow for a very large area as being the land of Mormon, extending east of Lake Atitlan, and then allow for the land of Jerusalem to begin on the eastern most boundary of that boundary, (the land of Mormon), and it being a very large area, where that would put you, is at  Lago de Iazbal (Izabal? - Marcel).  And guess what?  That is where I theorized the cities of Jerusalem, Onihah and Mocum were located, and were ultimately covered up.
 
But as already stated, I don't have enough info to know precisely where these three cities were located.  I believe the secret to knowing is in the name of the city of Onihah.  I know that hah places the city by water, and I am fairly certain that Oni has to do with a direction. 
 
For example:
mori means east (as in Morianton)
cori means west  (as in Coriantumr)
gadi means middle (as in gadianton robbers)
anti means opposite (as in anti-Nephi-Lehi)
te means end of (as in Teancum - end of the ocean)
a means above, (as in Amoron)
 
I am certain that Oni means south, north, low, high, zigzag, etc.  I just don't know what - yet. But it is the secret of discovering the location of these three cities.  I am patient.
 
Jerry

 

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October, 2007 Newsletter

Cities of Gilgal, Onihah, Mocum and Jerusalem

Jerry Ainsworth

 

 

Last month I wrote and posted an article about the cataclysmic events that took place during the crucifixion of the Savior.  In that article I referred to 3 Nephi 9:7 in which the cities of Onihah, Mocum and Jerusalem were destroyed.  I mentioned that I did not know where these three cities were located, but then made a guess as to where they may have been.

 

Once the article was published, I received a response indicating that a BofM tour guide had indicated that the BofM city of Jerusalem was built on the borders of the waters of Mormon, and was now under the waters of Lake Atitlan.  I subsequently responded to this email indicating that the BofM city of Jerusalem was not located by the waters of Mormon, in fact not even in the land of Mormon, but in the land of Jerusalem.  (see the 21st chapter of Alma)

 
Prior to writing that article I had just returned from Lake Atitlan, where I had spent time attempting to locate a city under water in that lake.  I could find no such city, nor could I find a reliable source that would confirm there was such a city in this lake.  And remember, even though it appears the city of Jerusalem is not in the lake, there are still two other cities mentioned in 3 Nephi 9:7.
 
I have just now returned from a nine day BofM tour that took me back to Lake Atitlan, and while there returned to the study of this topic.  As is frequently the case with me, I returned to the appropriate BofM verses and re-read, re-thought and re-considered what was stated in these verses.  I believe two verses of this chapter may have been inadvertently divided in such a way as to convey an unintended conclusion about these three cities.  I have considered the possibility that 3 Nephi 9:6-7 should possibly be one verse, not two.  When read together, it appears that what is being described, is not that three cities were covered by water, but that four cities sunk into the depths of the earth, being covered by the earth when the earth cleaved back together, as mentioned in
3 Nephi 10:10.
 
These two verses, (6-7) are divided in a very unusual way.  Verse six is essentially a fragment of a sentence, ending in a semi-colon, (;) not a period.  Verse seven then continues the sentence of verse 6, with “Yea, and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof…”  When read as one thought, rather than two, the verse(s) state that four cities sank into the depths of the earth, along with their inhabitants, (Gilgal, Onihah, Mocum and Jerusalem).
 
Verse seven then explains that where these cities once stood, “Waters have I caused to come up in the stead there of,…”  In other words, just like the city of Gilgal, the three other cities sank into the earth, and where these four cities had once stood.  The waters would be over a land mass where the cities once stood, rather than over the cities proper.
 
If I am correct about this analysis, then we can understand why we do not find a BofM city under fresh water lakes in Mesoamerica.  For certain we have found a Maya city under the waters of the ocean, in a place named Cerros, off the eastern coast of Belize, but we are still looking for cities under fresh water lakes.
 
I have since checked the use of the term “Yea, and …” in the BofM and it appears 280 times in the Book of Mormon.  In 123 cases, this term appears in the middle of a sentence, following the semi-colon (;) of the previous sentence – continuing with the same trend of thought, in the same paragraph.
 
In 83 cases the term “Yea, and…” appears at the beginning of a paragraph, but in only five of these cases, does the previous paragraph end with a semi-colon (;), as in 3 Nephi 9:6-7).  In other words, in addition to 3 Nephi 9:6-7, there are only four other places where one verse ends with a semi-colon, to be followed by the next verse beginning with “Yea, and…”  In these other four cases, the second verse, the one beginning with “Yea, and…” is a continuation of the thought of the preceding verse – which ends in a semi-colon.  (see Mosiah 18:9, Alma 9:22, Alma 13:22 and Helaman 8:9)
 
This is a very laborious way of saying 3 Nephi 9:6-7 should be read as one paragraph, not two, with verse seven simply being a continuation of what is being described in verse six.  I will now reproduce the two verses as I think they should appear, providing more clarity to what is being described in these two verses:
 
3 Nephi 9:6-7
 
And behold, the city of Gilgal have I caused to be sunk, and the inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth; yea, and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Mocum and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Jerusalem and the inhabitants therefore; and waters have I caused to come in the stead thereof, to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints shall not come up any more unto me against them.
 
Reading the two paragraphs this way changes the meaning of the verses dramatically.  Now the event being described is one of four cities sinking into the earth, and then waters filling up the area where these cities once stood.  Reading the verses this way allows the last comment of verse seven, (…to hide their wickedness…) to apply to all four cities, rather than just three, which makes more sense to me.
 
Joseph Smith did not put the Book of Mormon in chapters and verses.  That task was undertaken after the Prophet’s death.  Those making these divisions of verses relied on their own skills and perceptions, as they did not have access to the Urim and Thummim, as did Joseph Smith, when the plates were translated.
 
The reason we have not discovered a city under a lake, from Book of Mormon times, could be that there may not be one.  We may have been looking for something that does not exist.  Little wonder that we have not found it.
 
Note:
 
After posting this article last month, I received an email from a BofM guide who lives in Antigua, Guatemala, a person I had met while attending church there last month.  In his email, he assured me that there was a village under the waters of Lake Atitlan, and it was located close to the city of Santiago Atitlan.  He also informed me that there were photos of this under water site, as well as artifacts retrieved from this location in past years.
 
I know about artifacts that have been retrieved from the lake, as I saw that take place twenty years ago during one of my earlier visits to Santiago Atitlan.  As a seasoned SCUBA diver, I was interested in the retrieving of these artifacts from under the waters of Lake Atitlan.  After viewing these items, I was told they were ceramic artifacts which had been thrown into the lake by the early Spaniards, assuming them to be Pagan.  I am also conversant with the type of ceramic artifacts for the different time periods of the Maya, and the artifacts that I saw being retrieved were from the Post Classic time period, which is hundreds of years after the Book of Mormon.
 
In conclusion, I must consider these issue of under water Book of Mormon cities as unresolved.  I will continue to follow up on the claims made by the person in Antigua, Guatemala, et. al, and will continue to keep you, the reader, informed of the progress made in this on-going saga.

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: James
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:18 AM
Subject: Volcanic Activity at Crucifixion

Hi Marcel,

For many years, I have contemplated the meaning and method of the vast destruction that took place in the lands of the Book of Mormon at the time of the Savior's crucifixion.

There were huge upheavals in the land, fires that devestaded cities and vapors of darkness so thick that a torch could not be lit. I believe that the Lord works via natural laws. It is certainly possible that there was a hurricane and a volcanic eruption at the same time. Earthquakes and volcanos often coincide.

My question is, " Is there evidence that there was a very large eruption or series of erruptions at the time of the crucifixion? If so, it would explain how a mountain was caused to come up in the stead of a city and how some cities were buried. Any response on this subject would be appreciated.

Regards,
Jim

 

(Response from Jerry)

 Jim:

Welcome to the club of wondering about the evidences of the events which accompanied the crucifixion.  I have wondered similar things.  I'll respond to your questions as best I can.
 
I have attended most Maya conferences for the past twenty five years, and during that time, I have heard one report of a Maya city that burned around the time of the crucifixion.  I mentioned that report in the article, which came from Dr. Canuto of Yale university.  He reported that the city of Achates burned around 50AD.  This city is located close to the northwestern part of Belize.
 
During the twenty five years, I have heard of other Maya cities that were burned, but none dating to the same time period as Dr. Canuto reported.  It has been reported that the city of Teotihuacan burned around 400AD, and I have heard reports of other Maya cities burning at varying times between 400AD and the time of their demise.  In other words, just as there have been places that burned in the U.S. during the last 350 years, there have been Maya cities that have burned during the last 1500 years.
 
When we say the city burned, it must be clear what we are talking about.  These cities consisted of large stone structures, (buildings, pyramids, etc.), as well as small stick and thatch roof huts, in which the common people lived.  Therefore, when a city burned, what mostly burned were the thatch roofed huts of the common people. These kinds of huts can still be seen, as the Maya of Mesoamerica still live in the same kind of structures.
 
Since stone does not burn, the public ceremonial and religious buildings did not burn.  To the degree that there would be evidence of the fire on this stone buildings, (scorched stones), one of two things have happened to those blacked stones.  The first thing is that these people rebuilt their public buildings, (pyramids, etc.) every 52 years.  So, if there were scorched Nephite pyramids, they would have been covered over by subsequent stone structures that were build over them.
 
The second thing that would have happened, is that the Lamanites would have completely torn down the Nephite structures, once they took them over in 350AD, when Mormon gave their lands to the Lamanites.  Those stones from the de-constructed buildings would have then been reshaped and used in the building of new structures.  Therefore, we are not going to find much evidence of fires in Nephite structures for this time period.
 
As for the "vast destruction," you mention that occurred at the crucifixion, I probably have a different view.  There is no doubt that catastrophic things happened, but that is a relative concept.  For example, if every Nephite home was burned to the ground during this time period, which was not the case, all of those homes could have been rebuilt within a month.  All that is needed is a tool with which to cut some sticks and thatch, and then make some cord, and a home can be put up in short order.  If my home burned, it would take at least six months to rebuild it, and it would be at some great expense.  Not so among the Nephites.
 
The other parts of the vast destruction included roads being broken up, and those would not be that difficult to repair.  Since they were made of stone, you simple send out work crews to re-set the stones, etc.  Not a big deal.
 
Certainly there were stone structures that collapsed, as indicated in the BofM, but those also could be easily rebuilt.  They massed produced cut stones and buildings, like we mass produce automobiles.  If half of the automobiles in the U.S. were destroyed by a storm, etc, it would not take long for Detroit and Japan to replace most of them, as that is what they do.  They mass produce cars.  The Nephites mass produced cut stone, and used them to build public structures.
 
As best as I can determine, the destruction was not so vast, that the boundaries of BofM lands were altered.  The boundaries for Zarahemla, Bountiful, Desolation, the East Sea, the Narrow Pass, all appear to have remained the same after the crucifixion.
 
There are evidences of cities that have been covered over by volcanic eruption.  There is a city close to Mexico city that is covered by lava, but the date of that eruption in more recent than 34AD - like around 1500AD.  Other than these recent eruptions, I don't know of reports of eruptions around 34AD.  I don't even know if it is possible to date eruptions back that far.  In either case, I simply am not aware of any reports going back that far.  And I should be quick to add, that just because I don't know of them, does not mean they do not exist.
 
I have asked geologists if the Maya mountains, (my candidate for covering the city of Moronihah) are relatively new mountains, and I am told they are.  When asked to give me a date as to when these mountains may have been formed, I am told around ten million years ago.  And I should hasten to add, these are the same people that told me that the eastern coast of Belize did sink, and the Yucatan did rise a little - around 50,000 years ago.  I then told the minister of geology of Belize, "Well, the Maya must have built cities under water then, as there is a Maya city under water, off the eastern coast of Belize."  He just smiled and shrugged his shoulders.
 
As for evidence of the "thick vapors," I don't know of any evidence, nor do I know what kind of evidence one would look for.  I do however have one piece of anecdotal information that addresses this topic.  After traveling in Mesoamerica for many years, I was in Oaxaca one Easter, and myself and Esteban were observing the public celebration in the town square of the city of Oaxaca.  It is the same kind of celebration I have seen in the highlands of Mexico, San Cristobal de las Casas, and else where.  People by the thousands have wooded noise makers, called matracas, they use for this celebration.  These are small noise makers that we would equate with New Year's celebration and consist of a small wood stick, that has another part at the top, so when it is whirled in a circle, a clacking sound is made. 
 
During this celebration, I turned to Esteban and said, "I believe when I return to this place next year, I am going to bring some plastic matracas with me, and we can give them as gifts."  He said, "Don't do it, as the people would only accept such a gift, or use it, if it was made of wood."  I then asked why, and he told me the following story.
 
This celebration of the wooden matracas, is done in remembrance of the Catholic Easter mass in these parts of Mexico.  As part of the Easter mass, the priest walks down the isle with two sticks, beating them together, (making a wooden noise).  When asked why he did this, the priest said, "I don't know.  It was part of a Maya celebration that they had us incorporate into the mass - many many years ago.  If you want to know why, you will have to ask one of the Maya elders."
 
So Esteban then went to some of the older and influence Maya Elders, and asked them why this was done, the beating of the wooden sticks during Easter mass, and what the significance was.  The Maya then explained, that it was done in remembrance of a time period, which goes back before anyone can remember - when there were three days of darkness among the people - in which no fire would burn and there was no light.  Since people still had to cook, eat, and conduct business, each person would carry two sticks with them, and strike them together, as they walked, making a sound, so as not to bump into other people.
 
If one considers that evidence, then there is evidence of the three days of darkness.
 
Jerry Ainsworth

 

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Lake Atitlan - (The Waters of Mormon)

and a proposed under water city

by

Jerry Ainsworth

6 October, 2007

 

This is a continuation of a series of articles/comments I have written relative to two items of Book of Mormon interest, which have culminated in two pressing questions:

 

- The location of the Book of Mormon city of Jerusalem, (see Alma 21:1-2)

- Whether that, or any other ancient city exists under the waters of Lake Atitlan, the   

    proposed location of the waters of Mormon.

 

HISTORY

On September 1, 2007 I posted an article for this website that spoke briefly of the changes that took place in the Nephite lands during the crucifixion of the Savior.  In that article, I mentioned the destruction of the cities of Onihah, Mocum and Jerusalem, and indicated I did not know where they were located among Book of Mormon lands.

(see 3 Nephi 9:7)

 

After the posting of that article, I received an email from a reader that stated a BOM tour guide had told her the city of Jerusalem was under the waters of Lake Atitlan, (waters of Mormon).  She stated that she was told the BOM indicated the city of Jerusalem was located “on the borders” of the waters of Mormon.  I subsequently responded to that email, indicating that is not the way I read the 21st chapter of Alma.

 

Not long after writing that response, I was in Guatemala, where I spent some time around Lake Atitlan, trying to determine if there was evidence of a city being under the waters of that lake.  Although I was fairly certain such a city could not be the city of Jerusalem, there were two other cities mentioned in 3 Nephi 9:7, the cities of Onihah and Mocum.

 

While attending church in Antigua, Guatemala I met a member of the church who works as a BOM guide.  He assured me there was such a city under the waters of Lake Atitlan.  He indicated the name of the city was Chuitinamit, which, he said, means “under water city.”  He also told me that artifacts had been retrieved from this ancient under water city, which had been dated as being 2000 years old.

 

Three days after I returned home from this personal trip to Guatemala, I left for a nine day BOM trip, where I acted as one of the educators for the trip.  The other educator, with whom I shared instructional time, also made the statement about the under water city at Lake Atitlan.  He even quoted sources for this information.  Since I have a great deal of respect for this individual, I seriously considered the possibility that I may be wrong on this issue, and determined to spend some quality time researching the topic.

 

 

RESEARCH

Upon my return, one of the first things I learned from the Internet, was about the city of Chuitinamit, the proposed under water city.   I discovered that there was such a city, however it was not under the waters of Lake Atitlan, but existed on a hill close to the lakeside village of Santiago Atitlan.  It was at one time the capital of the Tzutuhil Maya, and dated to around 1200AD.  Indeed it is a ruin site that can be visited and is not now, nor has it ever been under water.  The meaning of the name Chuitinamit is not “underwater city,” but “a village inside a defensive wall.”

 

I then scoured books and literature that I trusted, and finally found where this idea came from, that the city of Jerusalem was adjacent to the waters of Mormon and sank into that lake.  I found this in John Sorenson’s book, An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon, (pp. 223-225).  I don’t know if the idea originated with Dr. Sorenson, but it was the earliest reference I could find.  Since Dr. Sorenson is well respected as a BOM researcher, information appearing in his writings carries a great deal of credibility – by myself, as well as others.  I have always admired his scholarly approach to his research and writings.

 

 

SURPRISING ERROR

Given the respect I have for Dr. Sorenson, I was taken aback at the scriptural reference he used to support his view about the location of the BOM city of Jerusalem.  It was the same reference I used to show the city of Jerusalem could not be in, or anywhere close to the waters of Mormon, (see Alma 21:1-2).  Following are these two verses:

 

Now when Ammon and his brethren separated themselves in the borders of the land of the Lamanites,behold Aaron took his journey towards the land which was called by the Lamanites, Jerusalem, calling it after the land of their fathers nativity; and it was away joining the borders of Mormon. (Bold added)

 

Now the Lamanites and the Amalekites and the people of Amulon had built a great city, which was called Jerusalem. (Bold Added)

 

I assumed that Dr. Sorenson, as well as others read these verses to indicate that the term “borders of Mormon,” referred to the banks of the waters of Mormon, placing the land of Jerusalem adjacent to the waters of Mormon, (Lake Atitlan).  Once that interpretation of this scripture was accepted, it would seem logical to assume that when the BOM city of Jerusalem sank, it sank into the waters of Mormon.

 

This story was published in Dr. Sorenson’s book in 1985, and has been repeated and embellished ever since.  Once again, this account may not have originated with Dr. Sorenson, but it was the earliest reference I could locate.

 

My reading of Alma 21:1-2 is dramatically different from the one rendered in Dr. Sorenson’s book and repeated by numerous authors, guides, et. al. ever since.  My rendering of these two verses is as follows:

 

- The land being described in this verse, is the land of Jerusalem.

- It was the land of Jerusalem that bordered Mormon, not the city of Jerusalem.

- Verse two indicates the great city of Jerusalem was built, and although the record does not state it as such, I think it reasonable to assume the city of Jerusalem was built in the land of Jerusalem.  It is the same conclusion I would make about the city of New York being in the state of New York, whether it was stated as such or not – especially if the verse describing the city of New York was in a verse following a discussion of the state of New York.  That is what happened in these two verses.  Alma talks about the land of Jerusalem, and then immediately mentions the building of the city of Jerusalem.

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-Alma 21:1 in its very last sentence, indicates that the land of Jerusalem “joins the border of Mormon.”  I must assume that Dr. Sorenson, (and others) conclude that the border being referred to is the borders of the waters of Mormon, rather than the borders of the land of Mormon.  I conclude that as it is the only rational way the land of Jerusalem can be located near the edge of lake Atitlan, (the waters of Mormon).

 

Inasmuch as I interpret this verse differently, I went through the Book of Mormon, searching the term “borders of,” to see if it was ever used in relationship to water, or was used exclusively when referring to lands.  Alma 5:3 clearly distinguish between the land of Mormon and the waters of Mormon.  I make the assumption that the waters of Mormon and the forest of Mormon, were smaller segments of the larger land of Mormon.

The term “borders of…” as used in the Book of Mormon refers to tracts of land, which may or may not be close to a body of water.  There are 62 uses of this term, (borders of) when referring to BOM lands – I offer a few examples:

 

Alma 16:7

And it came to pass that Zoram and his sons crossed over the river Sidon with their armies, and marched away beyond the borders of Manti into the south wilderness, which was on the east side of the river Sidon.

 

Alma 25:2

But they took their armies and went over into the borders of the land of Zarahemla, and fell upon the people who were in the land of Ammonihah, and destroyed them.

 

Usually the BOM authors will write “borders of the land Manti,” (or some other city or land), but sometimes they will omit the term land, referring directly to the name of specific city or land.  The two scriptures I offer above are typical of this difference.  Alma 16:6 refers to the borders of Manti, while Alma 25:2 refers to the borders of the land of Zarahemla.

 

When referring to the boundaries of water, the Book of Mormon, as a rule, uses the term, borders by, not borders of.  I give two, of 16 examples from the Book of Mormon:

 

 

Alma 51:26

And thus he went on, taking possession of many cities, the city of Nephihah, and the city of Lehi, and the city of Morianton, and the city of Omner, and the city of Gid, and the city of Mulek, all of which were on the east borders by the seashore.

 

Alma 52:12

Now, the king (Ammoron) had departed out of the land of Zarahemla, and had made known unto the queen concerning the death of his brother, and had gathered together a large number of men, and had marched forth against the Nephites on the borders by the west sea.

 

This is a very laborious way of showing that Alma 21:1 is not referring to the borders of the waters of Mormon, but the borders of the land of Mormon.  Indeed, if the waters of Mormon were in the land of Mormon, it would be extremely tricky, (to say the least), to have the borders of the land of Jerusalem, join the borders of the waters of Mormon.  For those who have been to Lake Atitlan, they can appreciate how the surrounding volcanoes would make such a possibility very unlikely.

 

I conclude the following about Alma 21:1-2

-  The Book of Mormon city of Jerusalem was located within the land of Jerusalem.

-  The borders of the land of Jerusalem joined the borders of the land of Mormon.

-. Some place inside the land of Mormon, were the waters of Mormon.

 

This places the city of Jerusalem a significant distance from the waters of Mormon, and therefore not a candidate for being located under those waters.

 

This does leave two other cities that 3 Nephi 9:7 mentions, (Onihah and Mocum), that could be located under the waters of Mormon.  But, for the following reasons, I have my doubts about that scenario also:

 

1.  As hard as I try, I cannot find one authoritative source that would confirm there is an ancient Maya city under the waters of Lake Atitlan.  I can find numerous LDS writers, guides, etc, that make the claim, but no one that could be considered an unbiased authority.

 

In as much as I have attended most Maya conferences for the past twenty years, I called and asked some of the Maya archaeologists if they were aware of such an under water city.  I could not find one that would confirm such a city exists. 

 

2.  I also asked these archaeologists if they are aware of ceramic artifacts that have been retrieved from the bottom of Lake Atitlan.  This is a topic of which I have some experience, as twenty years ago, during one of my earlier visits to Santiago Atitlan, I observed some of the ceramic artifacts being retrieved from the bottom of the lake.  I was told at that time, and the archaeologist I called this week confirmed, that these were artifacts which had been thrown into the lake by the early Spaniards, as they considered them to be pagan in nature.  None of them tested out as being 2000 years old, but closer to Post Classic time periods, (around 1300AD).

 

PRESSING QUESTIONS

This brings me to two pressing questions:

-What caused Alma 21:1 to be interpreted incorrectly by so many people, for so many years?

-What does 3 Nephi 9:6-7 actually indicate?  Should we look for cities other than Jerusalem to be under the waters of Lake Atitlan, or should we reconsider these two verses, (3 Nephi 9:6-7) altogether, as one verse, not two?

 

The first point is the most easily answered.  We, as members of the LDS church have such a powerful need to find indicators of the Book of Mormon, that we allow ourselves to see, read and hear things that are either not there, or are so distorted, that we see what we want to see, rather than what actually exists.  I offer the following as an example:

 

I give on average, one BOM slide presentation a month, at some location in the continental United States.  At the conclusion of one of the presentations, a member of the audience raised her hand and asked if I had seen King Benjamin’s tower – where he had given his last address, located at the ball court at Chichen Itza?  When I asked her where she had heard this, she told me that during a BOM tour to the Yucatan, the LDS guide had pointed this out to the group.  The fact that the ball court at Chichen Itza had not even been built until hundreds of years after the demise of the Nephite nation, did not seem to be an issue in this proclamation.  As a speaker, it is hard to know how to respond when such a question is asked.  And once again, this is just a sample of the assertions I hear.

 

The second point, the meaning of 3 Nephi 9:6-7, is a little more tricky.  Having pondered these two verses for a while, I have concluded that Parley Pratt may have done us a disservice.  I believe that he, or some other person who divided the Book of Mormon into chapters and verses, may have separated one singular meaning into two separate verses, thereby causing the confusion.

 

In 3 Nephi 9:6 the Lord states “…the city of Gilgal have I caused to be sunk, and the inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth;”

 

After stating this, verse seven begins in a strange way, to wit: “Yea, and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Mocum and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Jerusalem and the inhabitants; and waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof…”

 

I can find only four places in the Book of Mormon, where one verse ends in a semi-

colon (;), to then be followed by another verse that starts with “Yea, and …”  This verse is one of those four verses.  In each of the other three verses, the verse that follows the verse ending in a semicolon, is a continuation of the meaning and context of the previous verse. (see Alma 9:22, Alma 13:22 and Helaman 8:9)

 

This is a protracted way of saying, I believe these two verses, 3 Nephi 9:6-7, should read as one verse, not two.  When read and understood as one verse, a continuous thought, this is how it would sound:

 

And behold, the city of Gilgal have I caused to be sunk, and the inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth; yea and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Mocum and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Jerusalem and the inhabitants thereof; and waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof, to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the saints shall not come up any more unto me against them.

 

When viewed as one verse, one continuous thought, what appears to have happened is that four cities sunk into the depths of the earth, the earth then cleaved back together, (see 3 Nephi 10:10), and once that had taken place, “waters came up in the stead thereof,” where the cities had once been, not where they were standing.  In other words, these four cities were “sunk…and buried in the depths of the earth.”  Once the earth covered up the four cities, then waters came over the lowered and barren lands, where the four cities had once stood.

 

If this is the case, then we are looking for cities under fresh water locations that do not exist.  When reading of the demise of other Nephite cities, in 3 Nephi 9:5, 7, 9 10, 11, the Lord finished his condemnation of each of these cites, with justification for their destruction, such as:

 

“…to hide their iniquities and their abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and saints shall not come up any more unto me against them.” 

 

This explanation from the Lord, is given at the conclusion of verses 5-10, excluding verse 6, which seems out of context, considering the other five verses.  However, if verses six and seven are combined, there is then a consistent context and format in verses five through ten, as verse seven contains the Savior’s repeated justification for the destruction of these four cities.

 

CONCLUSIONS

At the outset of this article, I proposed two items of interest, which were:

 

-The location of the Book of Mormon city of Jerusalem.

-Whether this, or any other ancient city exists under the waters of Lake Atitlan.

 

To the first question, I return to my original statement, I do not know where the Book of Mormon City of Jerusalem is located.  I know it is in the land of Jerusalem, and I know that this land joins the borders of the land of Mormon.  If I knew where the ancient borders of the land of Mormon were, it would help, but I don’t.  Alma 21:1 does however give us a small clue, as it says that the land of Jerusalem was “away,” from where Ammon was at the time.   From this sparse clue, I have always assumed the land of Jerusalem was adjacent to the Eastern border of the land of Mormon.  Because there is very little for me to go on relative to the location of this land, I could be persuaded to look elsewhere.

 

To the second question, it is currently my assumption that there is no ancient Book of Mormon city under the waters of Lake Atitlan, (waters of Mormon).  Indeed, it appears there is only one city that is mentioned in 3 Nephi, chapters 8 & 9, which sunk under water, and which would remain even to this century, to be seen in its sunken state.  That city was the great city of Moroni, which I believe is the ancient Maya city that is under water off of the coast of Belize, at a place called Cerros.

 

In conclusion to this article, I should be quick to add, that I consider my efforts to understand 3 Nephi 8 and 9 to be an ongoing, evolving process.  I therefore assume there is still a lot for me to learn and recognize that part of that learning process, is the belief in information that I later discover was in error.  I have learned to have an open mind in this regard, and recommend such open mindedness to all those who read and ponder this article.

 

 

 

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NAH – in the Book of Mormon

by

 Jerry L. Ainsworth

11 November 2007

 

If you have read my posted Book of Mormon articles, you are aware that I have proposed there are remnants of the Ma